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Spiderman(movie) vs Anakin(RotS)
Topic Started: Dec 12 2014, 06:43 PM (760 Views)
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So either recent movie incarnations of Spiderman vs Anakin from Revenge of the Sith.
I say either Spiderman because you decide which is better for yourself.


Restrictions: Spidey has no gadgets of any kind besides his web shooters if he needs them, Force Choke isn't powerful enough to choke Spidey but can immobilize him for a time, Spidey knows about Anakin's force abilities.
Anakin has his lightsaber obviously and his grapple gun.

Takes place on the facility where Obi-Wan and Anakin fought in RotS.


Who wins? I think this would be a good fight, both Spideys should be faster but Anakin has sensing and reflexes to match them as well as his lightsaber for defence, not to mention The Force to help slow down or even push back Spidey.
But both Spiderman incarnations have more durability and stamina than him as well as long range moves.

I'd say ASM Spiderman has wayyyy better reflexes and combat ability but a lot less durability than original trilogy Spiderman plus the latter has seemingly unlimited supplies of web.


BONUS ROUND Black Suit original trilogy Spiderman, who wins then?
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What the hell is Spiderman gonna do on a Volcano planet? He can't grapple anything, everything is shielded. I guess he could pull Skuwalker, but that'd just put him in saber range. And Spiderman is NOT light saber proof by any means. That or maybe Skywalker Force pushes him into a pit of lava. Spidey is also not lava proof. Pretty sure Anakin sweeps. Maybe a change of arena might make it a bit more fair? Something with grapple points? Like couruscant?
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Dec 12 2014, 10:42 PM
What the hell is Spiderman gonna do on a Volcano planet? He can't grapple anything, everything is shielded. I guess he could pull Skuwalker, but that'd just put him in saber range. And Spiderman is NOT light saber proof by any means. That or maybe Skywalker Force pushes him into a pit of lava. Spidey is also not lava proof. Pretty sure Anakin sweeps. Maybe a change of arena might make it a bit more fair? Something with grapple points? Like couruscant?
Well I was thinking the shields just don't block the webs, with that it's a good arena because it's floating and gives Spidey a lot of movement options.

As for durability a few people have been hit by lightsabers and had bad burns it doesn't seem to always cut whatever it hits so I think Spidey could take a couple of hits, ASM should be able to dodge them fairly well anyway.
I forget who's survived cuts from them exactly but having watched episodes 1-5 lately I remember it happening in a fight or two.
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Dec 12 2014, 10:42 PM
What the hell is Spiderman gonna do on a Volcano planet? He can't grapple anything, everything is shielded. I guess he could pull Skuwalker, but that'd just put him in saber range. And Spiderman is NOT light saber proof by any means. That or maybe Skywalker Force pushes him into a pit of lava. Spidey is also not lava proof. Pretty sure Anakin sweeps. Maybe a change of arena might make it a bit more fair? Something with grapple points? Like couruscant?
Well I was thinking the shields just don't block the webs, with that it's a good arena because it's floating and gives Spidey a lot of movement options.

As for durability a few people have been hit by lightsabers and had bad burns it doesn't seem to always cut whatever it hits so I think Spidey could take a couple of hits, ASM should be able to dodge them fairly well anyway.
I forget who's survived cuts from them exactly but having watched episodes 1-5 lately I remember it happening in a fight or two.
Darth Vader's armor is the only thing that block a lightsaber in tge movies. Spidey is getting cut instantly.
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Dec 14 2014, 09:26 AM
Darth Vader's armor is the only thing that block a lightsaber in tge movies. Spidey is getting cut instantly.
But how can you tell? In the movies itself it wasn't really stated it's that durable an armour is it? Meanwhile Spiderman could handle his head getting crushed by Doc Ock's tentacles and ASM Spiderman survived lightning blasts from Electro, not without damage but he lived.

He's plenty durable if some crappy looking suit can offer defence shouldn't durability like Spidermans?

Not talking full force swings or stabs but minor hits shouldn't do much.
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Dec 14 2014, 10:40 AM
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Dec 14 2014, 09:26 AM
Darth Vader's armor is the only thing that block a lightsaber in tge movies. Spidey is getting cut instantly.
But how can you tell? In the movies itself it wasn't really stated it's that durable an armour is it? Meanwhile Spiderman could handle his head getting crushed by Doc Ock's tentacles and ASM Spiderman survived lightning blasts from Electro, not without damage but he lived.

He's plenty durable if some crappy looking suit can offer defence shouldn't durability like Spidermans?

Not talking full force swings or stabs but minor hits shouldn't do much.
Because that suit is more technologically advanced than the Green Goblin Suit, the Tentacles, The Helicarrier, Ironman and all of the Fantastic Four's bulls*** put together. It's made of a Durasteel Alloy that offer's Vader additional protection from energy weapons. Furthermore his gloves both contained micronized Madalorian Iron which served as a way to deflect energy bolts. In addition, Mandalorian Iron has actually been known to resist lightsabers.

His durability isn't going to change the damage. This isn't anime, this is Star Wars we're talkin bout here my homie-omie. Spidey can handle blunt and concussive force, but this is a pure plasma blade. So unless the Spider-Suit is made of cortis or Parker's muscles turn into Hydroman when necessary, that saber is gonna cut through whatever it hits like butter.
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Dec 14 2014, 07:37 PM
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Dec 14 2014, 09:26 AM
Darth Vader's armor is the only thing that block a lightsaber in tge movies. Spidey is getting cut instantly.
But how can you tell? In the movies itself it wasn't really stated it's that durable an armour is it? Meanwhile Spiderman could handle his head getting crushed by Doc Ock's tentacles and ASM Spiderman survived lightning blasts from Electro, not without damage but he lived.

He's plenty durable if some crappy looking suit can offer defence shouldn't durability like Spidermans?

Not talking full force swings or stabs but minor hits shouldn't do much.
Because that suit is more technologically advanced than the Green Goblin Suit, the Tentacles, The Helicarrier, Ironman and all of the Fantastic Four's bulls*** put together. It's made of a Durasteel Alloy that offer's Vader additional protection from energy weapons. Furthermore his gloves both contained micronized Madalorian Iron which served as a way to deflect energy bolts. In addition, Mandalorian Iron has actually been known to resist lightsabers.

His durability isn't going to change the damage. This isn't anime, this is Star Wars we're talkin bout here my homie-omie. Spidey can handle blunt and concussive force, but this is a pure plasma blade. So unless the Spider-Suit is made of cortis or Parker's muscles turn into Hydroman when necessary, that saber is gonna cut through whatever it hits like butter.
None of that is stated in the movies though is it? At least I'm pretty sure it isn't so within the movie verse itself that's not strictly canon.

As part of the overall lore/story yeah but talking movies only that was never stated.


Durasteel doesn't sound like it's all that tough anyway, not in a thin form anyway Doc Ock's tentacles are some kind of Titanium are they not? In the movie anyway, they're incredibly tough what with being able to endure the extreme heat of a miniature star and even contain it.

Spiderman in that trilogy is plenty tough too, he takes a few cut wounds sure and from what metals are unclear but as far as I remember it's basically just when whatever Goblin, with their enhanced strength, attacks him. And then there's him surviving blows from Sandman, I forget how many but if you suffered through Spiderman 3 it was a lot from such a big heavy foe.

If he can tank hits like that, which bent the steel girder he was on might I add surely he could take minor slashes from a lightsaber? Plus with his agility it'd be hard to get a good clean cut on him anyway.
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Spiderman is crap in both film series compared to the comic spiderman.

Also Vader can react to near ligthspeed with help from the force. If were going off pure movie canon then nothing ever stood up to a ligthsaber but Vader's armor.

Finally Spiderman was hurt by Ock's punches who was a normal doctor without the tentacles. Lightsaber is going right through Spidey.

Spiderman can take blunt force Taruma he can't withstand a lightsaber blow from Vader.

Edit: Two things

Which Anakin is this, when ROTS starts, after Dooku or during the fight with Obi-Wan?

2. This is Anakin so Spider-man's reflexes and speed advantage is minimal.
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Dec 14 2014, 09:26 AM
Darth Vader's armor is the only thing that block a lightsaber in tge movies. Spidey is getting cut instantly.
But how can you tell? In the movies itself it wasn't really stated it's that durable an armour is it? Meanwhile Spiderman could handle his head getting crushed by Doc Ock's tentacles and ASM Spiderman survived lightning blasts from Electro, not without damage but he lived.

He's plenty durable if some crappy looking suit can offer defence shouldn't durability like Spidermans?

Not talking full force swings or stabs but minor hits shouldn't do much.
Because that suit is more technologically advanced than the Green Goblin Suit, the Tentacles, The Helicarrier, Ironman and all of the Fantastic Four's bulls*** put together. It's made of a Durasteel Alloy that offer's Vader additional protection from energy weapons. Furthermore his gloves both contained micronized Madalorian Iron which served as a way to deflect energy bolts. In addition, Mandalorian Iron has actually been known to resist lightsabers.

His durability isn't going to change the damage. This isn't anime, this is Star Wars we're talkin bout here my homie-omie. Spidey can handle blunt and concussive force, but this is a pure plasma blade. So unless the Spider-Suit is made of cortis or Parker's muscles turn into Hydroman when necessary, that saber is gonna cut through whatever it hits like butter.
None of that is stated in the movies though is it? At least I'm pretty sure it isn't so within the movie verse itself that's not strictly canon.

As part of the overall lore/story yeah but talking movies only that was never stated.


Durasteel doesn't sound like it's all that tough anyway, not in a thin form anyway Doc Ock's tentacles are some kind of Titanium are they not? In the movie anyway, they're incredibly tough what with being able to endure the extreme heat of a miniature star and even contain it.

Spiderman in that trilogy is plenty tough too, he takes a few cut wounds sure and from what metals are unclear but as far as I remember it's basically just when whatever Goblin, with their enhanced strength, attacks him. And then there's him surviving blows from Sandman, I forget how many but if you suffered through Spiderman 3 it was a lot from such a big heavy foe.

If he can tank hits like that, which bent the steel girder he was on might I add surely he could take minor slashes from a lightsaber? Plus with his agility it'd be hard to get a good clean cut on him anyway.
Exactly. Since that was never stated in the movies, I always thought Vader deflected the energy bolts using the Force.....

Anyway regarding the OP: Anakin should win. All he needs is one hit. When Anakin realizes how strong and fast Spider-man is, he'll spam many Force attacks in anger. When affected, Spider-man will be very less likely to dodge lightsaber decapitation.
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Dec 15 2014, 12:07 PM
Finally Spiderman was hurt by Ock's punches who was a normal doctor without the tentacles. Lightsaber is going right through Spidey.

Spiderman can take blunt force Taruma he can't withstand a lightsaber blow from Vader.

Edit: Two things

Which Anakin is this, when ROTS starts, after Dooku or during the fight with Obi-Wan?

2. This is Anakin so Spider-man's reflexes and speed advantage is minimal.
That's just plot stupidity though a movie later he was taking hits from Sandman, that just doesn't make sense it's not that Spiderman is weak.
Compared to the comic version yeah.

I was thinking during the fight with Obi but technically speaking he had become Vader then so Anakin from earlier on I guess.


There's not a lot the force could do to Spiderman though really Anakin's range isn't all that and throwing him in to walls wouldn't do much and with that restriction choking Spiderman wouldn't do anything, if it would anyway.

You guys are forgetting that this is also one hit for Spiderman too, no way can Anakin handle punches from him and his reflexes are definitely superior to movie Anakin, his spacial awareness maybe not least not original trilogy Spidey anyway.

Spidermans web wouldn't be hard to cut obviously but in large amounts it'd be hard to handle, though with ASM he has limited amounts. There's a lot that could go wrong for Anakin in this fight.


I think Spiderman could win handily so long as he didn't underestimate Anakin if he treated him like a normal dude in their first clash he'd be cut in half most likely, although the lightsaber is so obviously dangerous so hard to tell how he'd judge it.
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I like Spider-Man, but he is boned in this fight. There's very little he can do against a constant force pummeling. It won't kill him, but the movie versions have crap durability and would be weakened enough for a coup de grace.

Even comic Spidey would have trouble with this(unless it's SpOck, you can make an argument for stomping with carbonadium if you believe it's tougher than Mandalorian Iron) and he's tough as crap.

BTW, there's a Spider-Man villain that would wreck Vader's s***, namely Morlun. But that hardly counts in this battle as he's not from the movies and Peter gets the ever loving snot kicked out of him by Morlun unless he's powered by the Spider God.
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Spider-Man is not one hitting Anakin. Anakin had his limbs cut off and survived 4th degree burns all over his body and then the Vader surgery without passing out.

Also since this is Zone Anakin, SPiderman is dealing with the most powerful Jedi ever.
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Dec 16 2014, 03:43 AM
Spider-Man is not one hitting Anakin. Anakin had his limbs cut off and survived 4th degree burns all over his body and then the Vader surgery without passing out.

Also since this is Zone Anakin, SPiderman is dealing with the most powerful Jedi ever.
I never claimed Spidey could, I meant that movie Spider-Man has crap durability.

BTW, pain tolerance doesn't equal durability(Batman has better pain tolerance than an elephant, elephants are far more durable)
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I like Spider-Man, but he is boned in this fight. There's very little he can do against a constant force pummeling. It won't kill him, but the movie versions have crap durability and would be weakened enough for a coup de grace.

Even comic Spidey would have trouble with this(unless it's SpOck, you can make an argument for stomping with carbonadium if you believe it's tougher than Mandalorian Iron) and he's tough as crap.

BTW, there's a Spider-Man villain that would wreck Vader's s***, namely Morlun. But that hardly counts in this battle as he's not from the movies and Peter gets the ever loving snot kicked out of him by Morlun unless he's powered by the Spider God.
When did Anakin ever opt for any kind of "constant force pummeling" though? That's out of character he only really does it against droids and other fodder or to grab his saber, he's powerful but not really that skilled in it in the movies.

Strictly Anakin this is referring to also not Vader after he's had time to learn the ways of the Dark Side.


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Spider-Man is not one hitting Anakin. Anakin had his limbs cut off and survived 4th degree burns all over his body and then the Vader surgery without passing out.

Also since this is Zone Anakin, SPiderman is dealing with the most powerful Jedi ever.


That doesn't really mean anything his body was probably in too much shock to pass out for one thing and getting your limbs cut off with a saber isn't fatal really the heat cauterizes the wounds instantly so there's no blood loss.
What comes next is usually fatal but losing limbs isn't it just ends any fight pretty much.

Anakin wouldn't be able to take the blunt force of Spiderman's attacks he has nothing close to his level of physical strength, dude gets knocked out after being force pushed in to walls...
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